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Long-form conversations exploring markets, risk management, and wealth strategy with prominent economists, portfolio managers, and industry thinkers.

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Jane Buchan on Alternatives, Diversification, and Investor Agency

Examining "alternatives" by mechanics rather than labels. Private equity as levered equity, private credit as floating-rate credit, and hedge fund strategies as instruments that change payoff shape. Plus why separate accounts, custody clarity, and transparent execution are first-order risk controls.

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Economics That Matters: From Academic Theory to Real-World Solutions with Larry Kotlikoff

A conversation with Jonathan's former mentor about what economics really means for families and investors. Covering Larry's path from Harvard to Boston University leadership, the Auerbach–Kotlikoff model, and why fiscal language can mislead real-world decisions.

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Defining FinTech: Innovation, Risk, and Financial Transformation with Michael Imerman

What truly counts as FinTech? Mapping the ecosystem, tracing the post-GFC innovation cycle, and separating durable signal from hype across AI, cloud, and blockchain. A conversation with UC Irvine Professor of Finance and author of The Economics of FinTech (2025).

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Purpose, Access, and the Modern Investor's Journey with Anna Paglia

A conversation with State Street Global Advisors' Chief Business Officer about investing and purpose-driven leadership. From waiting tables in Rome to executive leadership at a $4.7T asset manager—exploring how ETFs opened market access and why investing is as much about behavior as strategy.

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Fear, Not Risk: Rethinking the Equity Premium with Rob Arnott and Ed McQuarrie

This episode reframes asset pricing by replacing symmetric "risk" with asymmetric fear. Using evidence from the 19th through 21st centuries, Arnott and McQuarrie show that equity premia depend on cycle and starting conditions—and can go negative when FOMO dominates fear of loss.

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David Kotok on When History Meets Markets: Geopolitics, Civility, and Capital

Kotok traces lessons from a decade in his family's grocery store through a principled career in money management. The shift from post-pandemic to war-finance dynamics, and what geopolitics and debt-funded military spending mean for asset allocation.

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Fear Moves Markets. Keep It From Moving You.

Risk is measurable—you can quantify it, hedge it, diversify it. Fear is omnidirectional, contagious, and keeps you up at night. Drawing on experience managing risk during the 2008 crisis, Jonathan explains why distinguishing fear from risk matters more than ever for protecting wealth and avoiding emotional decisions.

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What Are We Going to Tell the Kids?

Wealth makes some things easier and others far more complex. Drawing on experience working with Forbes-listed billionaire families and conversations with financial education expert Joline Godfrey, Jonathan explores how families can start talking about money ten years earlier than most parents feel ready—and why that matters for building lasting legacies.

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A Little Perspective Goes a Long Way

When markets feel chaotic, data provides clarity. Examining Treasury yields, dollar strength, and economic indicators against historical ranges reveals whether we're facing a tremor or an earthquake. A framework for maintaining perspective when survival instincts shrink your mental horizon to hours and minutes.

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Hey Boss, Have We Tried Boiling the Frog Instead?

When do tariffs actually make economic sense? Drawing on training with UCLA economist Earl Thompson, Jonathan explains the defense externalities behind import taxes, why globalization created winners and losers, and what high-yield bond spreads reveal about whether market stress is a tremor or something worse.

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Selected Academic Research

2020

Forecasts or Nowcasts? What’s on the Horizon for the 2020s

Research Affiliates, with Rob Arnott

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2020

Oh My! What’s This Stuff Really Worth

Research Affiliates, with Chris Brightman and Amie Ko

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2019

Game Changed, Problems Remain

Investments & Wealth Monitor, with Rob Arnott and Brent Leadbetter

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2018

Hobbled by Benchmarks

Journal of Portfolio Management, with Rob Arnott, Mike Aked, and Omid Shakernia

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2017

Diversification without the Heartburn

Research Affiliates, with Jim Masturzo

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2008

Contingent Claims Analysis and Life Cycle Finance

American Economic Review, with Zvi Bodie and Doriana Ruffino

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2007

Making Investment Choices as Simple as Possible, but Not Simpler

Financial Analysts Journal, with Zvi Bodie

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2007

The Theory of Life-Cycle Saving and Investing

Boston Fed Paper, with Zvi Bodie and Paul Willen

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2005

The Non-Monotonicity of Value-at-Risk and the Validity of Risk Measures Over Different Horizons

Boston University Working Paper

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2004

Predicting Bubbles and Bubbles-Substitutes

UCLA Economics Working Papers, with Earl A. Thompson and Charles R. Hickson

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Selected Guest Appearances

Financially Fit Families with Joline Godfrey

Beyond piggy banks: preparing children for lives of true abundance—not just in dollars, but in community, curiosity, and resilience. A conversation about teaching kids how the world really works, including money.

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Economic Matters with Laurence Kotlikoff

The 2024 market outlook with Jonathan's former mentor. Analyzing 2023's remarkable soft landing, potential risks ahead including commercial real estate and inflation, and why protecting capital matters more than chasing returns.

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The Meb Faber Show with Meb Faber

Value investing, market cycles, and the psychology of long-term wealth building. A discussion about why common sense often disappears when investors approach financial markets.

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Thoughtful Money with Adam Taggart

Market valuations, bubble dynamics, and irrational exuberance. Drawing on his UCLA bubble research, Jonathan examines whether recent market strength is durable or requires caution.

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Multi-Manager Due Diligence, Active ETFs, and Why Commodities Matter with Kristof Gleich

Due diligence happens in hallways, not conference rooms. Kristof Gleich explains why the pitch deck is theater—real signals appear when managers think you're not watching. His best red flag: a "long-term investor" day-trading during the site visit.

The biggest trap isn't picking wrong managers, it's buying what just worked. Money-weighted returns trail time-weighted because investors chase performance—buying high, selling low, repeat. Commodities tend to be underrepresented because they disappointed in the 2010s. Yet 26% inflation since 2020 suggests physical backing matters again.

Active ETFs aren't automatically tax-efficient. Mean reversion may be dead. And if you ever think "I didn't sign up for this," you calibrated risk wrong—because that's when psychology destroys portfolios.

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Fear, Not Risk: Rethinking the Equity Premium with Rob Arnott and Ed McQuarrie

This episode reframes asset pricing by replacing symmetric “risk” with asymmetric fear.

Using evidence from the 19th through 21st centuries, Arnott and McQuarrie show that market returns are nonstationary, that equity premia depend on cycle and starting conditions, and that premia can go negative when FOMO dominates fear of loss.

The practical takeaway is behavior‑aware portfolio design and expectation‑setting grounded in regime dynamics, not static averages.

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Jane Buchan on Alternatives, Diversification, and Investor Agency

This TREUSSARD TALKS interview with Jane Buchan examines “alternatives” by mechanics rather than labels.

We talk about private equity as levered equity, private credit as floating‑rate credit with still‑evolving default and workout paths, and hedge fund strategies as instruments that change exposure, correlation, and payoff shape via long/short construction and constraints.

We cover how globalization has raised cross‑market correlations, where diversification still adds value, and why separate accounts, custody clarity, and transparent execution are first‑order risk controls.⁠⁠​

We also work through failure modes such as narrative‑driven allocation, overreliance on brand, and ignoring capacity and liquidity.

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Defining FinTech: Innovation, Risk, and the Economics of Financial Transformation with Michael Imerman

Join Jonathan Treussard, Ph.D. for a thoughtful conversation with Michael Imerman, Ph.D. — Professor of Finance at UC Irvine and author of The Economics of FinTech (2025).

They talk about what truly counts as FinTech, map the FinTech ecosystem, trace the post‑GFC innovation cycle, and separate durable signal from hype across AI, cloud, and blockchain.

They also explore inclusion, alternative data, and fairness in credit decisions, and close with teaching, purpose, and the skills that create day‑one value in finance.

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David Kotok on When History Meets Markets: Geopolitics, Civility, and Capital

Jonathan Treussard sits down with David Kotok to connect history, civility, and investing. Kotok traces formative lessons from a decade in his family’s grocery store through a principled career in money management.

The conversation links historical cycles to today’s markets. Drawing on research behind Kotok’s book, The Fed and the Flu, they outline a shift from post‑pandemic dynamics to war‑finance dynamics. The takeaway: geopolitics and debt‑funded military spending have implications for policy, rates, and asset allocation⁠⁠.

The conversation ties strategy to purpose and horizon. And it teaches us lessons that only a lifetime of studying markets and history can bring to the thoughtful listener.

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Larry Kotlikoff on Economics That Matters: From Academic Theory to Real-World Solutions

On this episode, I sit down with Larry Kotlikoff — Boston University economics professor, influential policy thinker, and longtime mentor — for a candid conversation about what economics really means for families and investors.

We cover Larry’s path from Harvard to the halls of Washington and BU leadership, unpack the birth of the Auerbach–Kotlikoff model, and explore why fiscal language can mislead real‑world decisions.

The discussion connects rigorous theory to practical choices, helping investors navigate uncertainty from first principles and with discipline. Valuable for business leaders, families, and professionals seeking durable wealth aligned with purpose.

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Anna Paglia on Purpose, Access, and the Modern Investor's Journey

On this episode, I sit down with Anna Paglia, Chief Business Officer at State Street Global Advisors, for a candid conversation about democratizing investing, purpose‑driven leadership, and breaking down barriers to wealth creation.

We trace Anna’s journey from waiting tables in Rome while in law school to executive leadership at a $4.7T asset manager, and explore how ETFs opened market access with small starting amounts⁠⁠.

We dig into why investing is as much about behavior as it is about strategy—navigating volatility with discipline, learning from unexpected mentors, and aligning purpose with long‑term goals. Valuable for families, founders, and professionals looking to build durable wealth with clarity⁠⁠.

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Anne Rhodes and Dave Haughton on Estate Planning, Legacy, and Why Everyone Needs a Plan

On this episode, I sit down with Anne Rhodes, Chief Legal Officer at wealth.com and attorney Dave Haughton for an important conversation about reclaiming control, navigating family dynamics, and how proactive estate planning shapes our wealth, legacies, and relationships across generations.

Anne and Dave share their journeys from major law firms to legal tech and public education. We dig into why estate planning is about much more than technical documents or tax savings—it’s about empowering families, resolving conflict before it starts, and connecting actions to the things that matter most.

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